Well i see that my comment is making some people react !!
First of all dear Kevin, i have discovered this site today as i didn't have access to my office and was surfing on facebook : i saw an ad for Logotournament. I was sitting in bed with a tiny laptop and no mouse for a couple of hours and made a few logos for fun. That's my business perspective, i am working for the World Health Organisation, the UN, the World Business Council fo Sustainable Development etc... and today i coudn't work and had to have some fun. Now that i got that straight, let me say i wasn't lobbying for anyone as i new my designs weren't even going to be considered, being so late in the process, but what can i do, i coundn't turn clocks backwards. And i am not going to win points, so what? what shall i do with points and credibilty. I have more than credibility with my clients, i have trust and mutual conprehension, a common purpose and proven results.
Second : My comment wasn't pleading for my designs, it's part of how i see and do things, true, but i never said that my logo worked: As a matter of fact, i don't do logos, i am more interested in branding and identities as a whole. How long does it take me to discover the identity of a brand and make a logo? at least 20 to 25 hours including all the time speaking with the client to understand him and help him understand his own business. Therefore my logos made in two hours are just a sort of lie, a facade that means something very general vaguely related to the concepts in the brief, a sort of decoration, or a IKEA frame with three pictures of pebbles on a beach that can fit on every wall if you like.
Third : i didn't mean you needed a logo in black and white. It is a reaction to all these pages and pages of logos that have gradients and glass effects when there's no reason whatsoever for having thoses effects appart from : 1. Looking "cutting edge" (but sorry fads don't last) 2. Proving you can pay for a proper designer logo or show off (in the case of the designer) that he masters illustrator and can do the effect that are now possible (but so inappropriate to printing : its a Web 2.0 effect that works for PC screens!!!! ) and that he should try to place everywhere now that he has mastered it. I have a book with the greatest logos ever made, and loads of very old logos are just intemporal, they are still beautiful, not because of their style, but in their essence, the balance of their shapes, of skill of the typography and that's something that was all done without computers, all by hand, and first in black and white ... All i am saying is that when a logo is well balanced, meaningfull, dynamic, inspiring in B&W, then you go ahead, put the right colours on and you end up with a very nice piece of communication. If you take stylish colour effects out of a logo, you sometime realise there is not much to it, that it is nothing but confusion: That's when you know the logo isn't anything else than a fad. I will not point out to any specific logo on this brief, but at a glance, luckily at least the top ten dosen't seem threatened by my comment, you could deconstruct them and still have a strong visual impact. Providing the final file in B&W etc has nothing to do with my comment!
Finally i am not so sure this site is doing any good to the designer community! Mister Kevin, you probably are tirelessly working to win some contracts over your competitors, but do you work against another 100 companies. And wouldn't the time spent trying to get a contract be reflected in the margins you have once you win it. Well in the case of this site. Many designers will either spend hours unpaid which isn't fair, or will give you a makeover of another logo they made for a similar project (check Speedlogo for example, with his Joe Corbi home improvement logo, does it look familiar to you, or were you not worth more than a template design?). I don't know a whole lot about how this site works but i don't feel that this will give realistic expectations to the market in general and it doesn't necessarilly encourage genious. The same happened in the web design with very expensive template sold as "original designs" to accepting clients
As long as your happy...
Max