sorry guys, its so difficult to find a design that im 100% happy with, which is why ive extended the contest, Immo0~ has some great ideas...also we recently had the birth of our 1st child, so im spread very thinly at the moment, which is why limited feedback, apologies for this..also in response to Jimhack, if you see the designs on our website are totally different to the logos's idea's here and i trust me, i wouldnt be able to sell a design with just our logo as the design, im looking for something special, special that can represent YEL, something that we can put of polo's, a logo that stands out, an icon that's orginal.