#66- I'd like Plumbing to stand alone.....I don't like LLC in the same size,font, and placement as "plumbing"
#70- On the computer, I can "see" the shamrock is half full of liquid, but because of the shading necessary to pull that off, I think that may be much harder to "see" on a small business card, or on embroidered shirts, ect. I like everything else about #70
Using #66 and #70 as my prime examples I'd like to say this: If we kept everything about them the same except the shamrock, would it be possible to submit to me several totally different Shamrocks that could be plugged into either 66/70. With removal of the faucet coming directly off the shamrock and placing it in the circle border (which I like) either design could incorporate any shamrock in the world within the space. I like the design of #70's shamrock better, but neither has nailed it for me based on the shamrock alone. If I could see some totally different shamrocks that (this is important) stick to that retro vibe I'm looking for and perhaps find one I like better than the current 2, then we could plug it into the current designs and have a finished product. I don't know what guidance to give for the shamrock but I'll try. Retro/vintage, smooth lines, elegant rather than simple/rough/clipartish. For example 70, if filling the current/new shamrock designs w/ liquid is the concept, I'd want it to be something that doesn't rely on shading to convey that, maybe just 1st grade, universal vs. of water...I don't know. I'll probably extend this out another week unless a shamrock comes in that blows me away just to give time to fine tune it. I know you all are spending time on this and it shows, I just want to once and for all get my logo problem solved and move forward with branding. Thanks alot for you talent and work