Hebrews 9:22 (New American Standard Bible) "And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."
Can you add a little color to 38 and 39 ... maybe a red cross like one of the other guy's?
This one has some potential too. I miss the verse too. Maybe we need to try it somewhere. Don't want to get it too busy but I did like the scripture reference. The blood is good too ... will is show up on a large embroidered patch?
I'm not a graphic artist, but what if you put "Forgiven Sons" on the top banner of #38 and #39, then had a small banner at the bottom of the cross which had the scripture reference?
Thanks for bearing with me, man. Sorry about the numerous requests. I can tell though, that we're kind of on the same wave link. I appreciate the work you're doing.
"Forgiven Sons" will still be on top, but with more arch. Doesn't have to be a banner. Most motorcycle groups just have their name on an arched patch.
The middle will be the cross and wings, but can you try a cross similar to the one in #56 (but doesn't have to have the circle thing in the middle).
The bottom rocker will be a bigger arch too, and it will now say "PS421".
If you look at a motorcycle club's jacket, they really have 3 patches. The top rocker is the name. The middle is the graphic (cross and wings in our case). The bottom rocker is something else, in our case, the verse reference.
My fault. There's one other thing. The top arch needs to be in a font that is bigger and bolder than what you currently have. We really like the font in #34.
Also, maybe make the wings gold, like some of the other designs. Might have to make the background on the arches black or something else if we make the wings gold? Don't know what other background color might be good. I'm open if something grabs your eye.
I really like #96. I know you're tired of making changes, but could you try a couple more things? I'm wondering if there are some crosses that are still this basic style, but with something else to make them not quite so basic? Some of the guys have used crosses with circles in the middle, or crosses with different cutouts, etc.
Also, what about using some other colors ... maybe orange, some sort of blue, maybe some silver in the cross and/or wings? Just something to get a little different look.
Don't know if any changes will make a difference ... but we thought it might be worth a shot.