#38 &
#39 Like them both but think we still prefer the ring of hands, we're not counting the hands ideas out (side note: actually one of the comments here was that the ring of hands was liked because it was like a sun and sun is happy -- just interesting because then you next ideas were suns).
Also, our web address is spanishiw.com and sometimes in copy we refer to ourselves as SIW, is there something you can do to accentuate that in the logo words? Working that with
#36 would be the way to go and of course you can always throw any brainstorm idea into the mix too if it strikes you.