masterct we have learned that we do not feel comfortable with any item(s) above the lword relive in the logo. That give us a bad sense of balance. Maybe it is just us. We like your design 177. There ae others we like better. If we were going to change yours, we would want a font that kept the letters from touching each other--your font is too tight. We would probably ask to change the blue mark on the left side, but we don't know how it should look. Thanks for your entry 177. It is far stronger than about 240 others. We are still finalizing our thinking and choices.