Terry - I like the design on #67 and #68, but I see an abstract person before I see the visual play and the "V" and the "E". Main issue I have with that is that there are so many HR type companies, personnel companies, training companies, etc that have an empowered person as part of the logo. That association is stronger in #67, so I'm removing, leaving #68 so I can think about it and also discuss with my partners, all 3 of whom are in China this week. Thanks!