Dancers, capitol, Native American figure all great! Those are done. No changes. Awesome!
What would this look like with the teal inside circle orange and the lines above and below the rectangle orange? (Leaving the lettering unchanged)
We are trying to find subtle ways to make it more happy, fun, and cheerful with a little orange, but not adding too much orange since it’s not our main color.
Dancers are great, spacing is great, Native American figure is great, no more changes needed on shapes or spacing. It all looks amazing! We are so pleased with the design!
The only change is to colors.
Could we see this with a teal shadow on the word Topeka instead of an orange shadow? (Keep the orange circle and for the shadow of the words “swing dance”.)
All color I am use is basically code HEX CMYK or RGB information from your attachment. I will give you all format files beside EPS and JPEG. Other files will be send directly to your email after the contest end.
Basically once we get Dancer 2's arm the way we want the only thing we still want to try are different color combinations (create a black and white version for print materials, try adding orange to make it look a little brighter, etc.).
If it is a vector image and you are willing to give us the source file then my marketing person can make color changes. You have done SO much amazing work for us already, we don't want to ask much more of you.
Sorry for late respond, I am calibrate my monitor according you PDF files attachment to make more precision color. Update proposal with blue and yellow according your attachment.
We have adjusted one of our blues and our yellow from our original colors we uploaded with the contest. My marketing person is uploading a document with our correct official brand colors now. If you could check your colors and make sure they match we would greatly appreciate it.
That would be one thing to check. Are the colors in this design the colors we have listed in the contest? (They look like they are, we just want to make sure.)
I have passed this design on to my marketing person and our leadership team to see if they have any final feedback. It is looking really good!
Like the yellow line on the bottom of capitol, looks finished (more than other design).
Can make figure on top of dome even bigger & move Topeka up so it covers his feet, the top of the Topeka is about at the height of his hips. (You can make just him bigger without making the rest of the dome bigger.)
Dancer 2nd from the left looks good. Would like more gender neutral hair on the figure on the far left.
Yes, I wondered about that, but we really like the circle. Is there a way to move the whole dome down so just the figure peaks above the word Topeka but doesn’t break through the circle?
How about without circle, the native american figure break through the circle claimed to be idea from other designers. I must respect other designer in here, so I can't use concept with native american figure break through the circle. I hope you understand this situation.
Ok, we really like having a partnered couple in the logo! It looks like couples and solo dancers all having a great time!
(You have such a great eye for this!)
Now we'd like to make the people in the couple less stereotypically male/female (because people of all genders dance together in our scene) while still keeping their personality.
Things to try for the partnered couple:
•Have the woman have shorter hair, a less curvy figure, maybe be wearing pants
•Have the guy not wearing a hat, have a hair shape that could be male or female.
Update proposal, left dancer inside hand in different pose, change directions 3rd dancer from left to facing 4th dancer. Look like 2 couple dance together.
Ok, could we see a version of this where the couple on the left side have connected their inside hands so it looks like they are dancing together? (We're not sure we want to go with this, but my marketing person wants to be able to market to couples, too.)
Nice. The white background is what we'd use. I think the shadowing on the word "swing dance" makes it hard to read. Topeka is still easy to read, though.
Update proposal #187#185 and #184 in color and b/w version, make native american figure little bit bigger, and change the dancer in the middle with different pose.
Would it also be possible to see a version where the two people on the left side have their inside hands connected to one another like they are dancing together?
Also could the Ad Astra (Native American figure on the top of the dome) be just a little bit bigger so we notice it more and see its shape more clearly.
This is the design we would like to edit toward making it our final design. :)
Also once we have our final design would you be willing to make a black and white and grey version of it, too? (We do some print materials in black and white to save $$.)
Thanks for feedback, update proposal
- make capital dome more lighter
- use capital dome from #157
- make cancer more spread and facing together
- fill the empty space to reduce floating dome.
Another member of our team also commented that they liked Logo 157 better because the people were facing toward each other and it felt like more of a community.
Also it looks like the capitol dome is “floating” while the dancers are anchored to the ground, there is a large white gap around the dancers feet and ankles. Any ideas to change that?
Thanks for trying this. Fun Native American figure!
I like the capitol dome bigger, but it is still looking busy behind the dancers. It’s like the dancers and the dome are competing for our attention, and I want people to notice the dancers first, then realize there’s a dome behind them. So could you simplify the dome even more? And maybe a lighter grey?
Sorry for late respond, last feedback received 05.30 AM, and I am fall a sleep in front of my computer. Update base on entry #158 simplify capitol dome like entry #157.
Also would like to see what this would look like if the dome were so big it went behind the Topeka, too, and the part where the Native American figure would go extended into the space above the word Topeka. (I don’t like how the one part of the dome is basically the same height as the dancer’s head so it blends with her head.)
Could you take out the triangle element at the bottom of the dome so it’s more just the dome and make it bigger? It seems really busy behind them, that might help. And then the dome could be taller, too, leaving room to add Ad Astra (our Native American chief) to peek over the top of the word Topeka on the top if we go this direction.
I like the two dancers you’ve chosen for this logo (I like that one of them is the woman so both women and men are represented in our logo).
You did it, a capitol building is in there! Thanks!
It feels odd for the capitol building to have that much detail when the dancers are just shapes.
Also if the capitol building was just a shape of a different color could the trio of dancers go on top of it (or would that ruin the clean simplicity of the overall design we’re working with here? I don’t want to lose that, I really appreciate that element of all of your recent submissions.)
This has possibilities. I really hate to break up that trio of dancers, though. Could the capital dome be suggested (maybe in the background) rather than so literally present and taking the place of one of the dancers?
(You can also Google "Kansas state capitol building" for pictures, but we are very proud of our Ad Astra on the top, which is what is pictured in our file.)
Speaking of the capitol dome, is there any way you could bring a suggestion of our capitol dome into this design without changing/complicating things too much? We don't NEED it per say, but it is something that makes our swing dance scene unique. We often dance downtown in businesses near the capitol building, plus it something that makes Topeka unique from other cities that have swing dancing. (There is a picture of our capitol dome in the files.)
I don't want to throw this design on its head, but if we can also sneak a suggestion of the capitol building in there that would be super neat!
I'm undecided on how I feel about closing the ends of the shape around swing dance with the triangle/flag. I almost prefer the ends left open or just closed off in a simple rectangle, maybe?
Interesting. This rounded shape is nice, it also kind of suggests the capitol dome.
Maybe a little less fading on the dancers, they are starting to look a little patchy (especially the guy on the right), or like paint was splattered on them.
There is a lot I love about this design, too. It almost seems like the words are dancing and it's teeming with energy.
That said, it still feels a little cluttered. I wonder if a thicker white line around the letters would help set them apart from the background dancers a little more.
I don't like this one as much. I like the angle to the words and how they fit between the dancers, but I prefer to either have the dancers behind it all the way or off to the side. Blending it with just a body part or two behind the letters doesn't quite work for me.
Overall can we play with making the words more equal sized? Swing dance is just as important as the word Topeka (perhaps even more so), so if anything should be bigger than the other, it's probably the words "Swing dance."
I liked a lot about this design! The figures coming from behind the words infuse it with energy, as does the angle of the words. It just looks fun, and that's one of the words we want to capture in our logo.
Love the figures! Could you try making them in our yellow color (see the files) rather than this tan color?
The white space between the orange outline and the letters gives it almost a blurry feel when I'm looking at it. Instead of two shadows (white and orange) can we cut it down to one or none?
Also orange isn't one of the colors we use very often, so we don't want much (if any) orange on our logo. Our three main colors are the teal, yellow and navy.
Not super loving the font. I like the thickness since it's in front of the figures, but the serifs look a little circus-like to me.
Can the figures look more vintage? They look more contemporary dance than vintage. Also maybe having their poses be even a bit more different from one another so it's not quite such a mirror image (see files for pics of swing dancers for pose ideas)
Font could have a more vintage feel as well.
Words "swing dance" need to stand out more, they are equally if not more important than the word "Topeka."
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Thanks for feedback, update with new color combination #212 and #213
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What would this look like with the teal inside circle orange and the lines above and below the rectangle orange? (Leaving the lettering unchanged)
We are trying to find subtle ways to make it more happy, fun, and cheerful with a little orange, but not adding too much orange since it’s not our main color.
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The only change is to colors.
Could we see this with a teal shadow on the word Topeka instead of an orange shadow? (Keep the orange circle and for the shadow of the words “swing dance”.)
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All color I am use is basically code HEX CMYK or RGB information from your attachment. I will give you all format files beside EPS and JPEG. Other files will be send directly to your email after the contest end.
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If it is a vector image and you are willing to give us the source file then my marketing person can make color changes. You have done SO much amazing work for us already, we don't want to ask much more of you.
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And THANK YOU again for all your work on this! We really appreciate it!! We are getting so close! (We're excited!!)
Also are you willing to give us the source files with the design?
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The colors aren't looking right. Did you use the RGB, CMYK or HEX numbers from the file?
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This is using different yellow from your attachment.
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Sorry for late respond, I am calibrate my monitor according you PDF files attachment to make more precision color. Update proposal with blue and yellow according your attachment.
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Also they like the top hat better on dancer 4 than this hat. (Thank you for giving us several hat choices!)
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I have passed this design on to my marketing person and our leadership team to see if they have any final feedback. It is looking really good!
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Update according your feedback, with yellow more strong #204 and with yellow preference color #203
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Update proposal base on entry #200
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Can still move the word Topeka up, it can cover up the bottom part of the figure.
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Keep hat on dancer number 4
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The right arm on dancer 2 needs to attach more naturally to the body. (Looks really skinny at the top of the arm by the shoulder right now.)
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Like the yellow line on the bottom of capitol, looks finished (more than other design).
Can make figure on top of dome even bigger & move Topeka up so it covers his feet, the top of the Topeka is about at the height of his hips. (You can make just him bigger without making the rest of the dome bigger.)
Dancer 2nd from the left looks good. Would like more gender neutral hair on the figure on the far left.
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How about without circle, the native american figure break through the circle claimed to be idea from other designers. I must respect other designer in here, so I can't use concept with native american figure break through the circle. I hope you understand this situation.
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Can woman's hips be smaller, less curvy? And maybe look like she is wearing pants? And shoes of this shape: https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1MlCrFL5TBuNjSspcq6znGFXaO/2018-Plus-Size-43-Women-Lace-Up-Vulcanized-British-Saddle-Shoes-Female-Leather-Flats-Lady-Black.jpg_640x640.jpg
Here are some websites with ideas for gender-neutral hair for the figure on the far left:
https://i0.wp.com/therighthairstyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/19-retro-curly-fringe-cut.jpg?resize=500%2C500&ssl=1
http://thehivedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/gender-neutral-hairstyles-wt-displayg-hairstyle-tattoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KLf9LNw.jpg
https://i2.wp.com/therighthairstyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/4-ashy-brown-spiky-pixie.jpg?resize=500%2C500&ssl=1
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTuVD2pAtv2a_Kz4tL-_ZonnI-CeT3fR32r8q6ITAVBSYL-C8j5pw
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Update proposal take off hat and change the woman hair.
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Ok, we really like having a partnered couple in the logo! It looks like couples and solo dancers all having a great time!
(You have such a great eye for this!)
Now we'd like to make the people in the couple less stereotypically male/female (because people of all genders dance together in our scene) while still keeping their personality.
Things to try for the partnered couple:
•Have the woman have shorter hair, a less curvy figure, maybe be wearing pants
•Have the guy not wearing a hat, have a hair shape that could be male or female.
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Then move the right hand and arm of the woman on the left to connect with the hand of the man on the far left so those two are touching hands.
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Update proposal, left dancer inside hand in different pose, change directions 3rd dancer from left to facing 4th dancer. Look like 2 couple dance together.
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Update more bigger native american figure
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Can the figure on the top be even bigger? It is special to our home city.
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Update proposal #187 #185 and #184 in color and b/w version, make native american figure little bit bigger, and change the dancer in the middle with different pose.
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Thank you, wait for moment I will update my proposal asap.
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Also once we have our final design would you be willing to make a black and white and grey version of it, too? (We do some print materials in black and white to save $$.)
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Thank you for how incredibly hard you’ve worked on this, it is a pleasure working with you!
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Thanks for feedback, update proposal
- make capital dome more lighter
- use capital dome from #157
- make cancer more spread and facing together
- fill the empty space to reduce floating dome.
Regards,
Jefry
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Could the yellow be more transparent/lighter? Not a different color of yellow, but it is still overpowering the dancers a bit.
Would spreading the dancers out a little bit make it feel less crowded?
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Update proposals #167 #168 and #169
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Could we try letters navy, highlight on letters teal, dancers teal, and capitol dome yellow?
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What if you took out the part of the dome behind the word Topeka completely?
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Hmmm. That does look kind of weird with that empty space there where the windows used to be.
Would a solid thick horizontal grey band instead of individual small windows be less distracting? (For both the bottom row and second to bottom row.)
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Thanks for feedback, update proposal #163 and #164
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I like the capitol dome bigger, but it is still looking busy behind the dancers. It’s like the dancers and the dome are competing for our attention, and I want people to notice the dancers first, then realize there’s a dome behind them. So could you simplify the dome even more? And maybe a lighter grey?
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Update proposal capital dome (where the Native American figure would go extended into the space above the word Topeka)
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Sorry for late respond, last feedback received 05.30 AM, and I am fall a sleep in front of my computer. Update base on entry #158 simplify capitol dome like entry #157.
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Jefry
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Also would like to see what this would look like if the dome were so big it went behind the Topeka, too, and the part where the Native American figure would go extended into the space above the word Topeka. (I don’t like how the one part of the dome is basically the same height as the dancer’s head so it blends with her head.)
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Could you cut the jagged lines/triangle at the bottom, too, and then expand the dome part down to fill that space?
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Could you take out the triangle element at the bottom of the dome so it’s more just the dome and make it bigger? It seems really busy behind them, that might help. And then the dome could be taller, too, leaving room to add Ad Astra (our Native American chief) to peek over the top of the word Topeka on the top if we go this direction.
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How about 3 dancer still in the place with soft grey for capitol dome #154 and #155?
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You did it, a capitol building is in there! Thanks!
It feels odd for the capitol building to have that much detail when the dancers are just shapes.
Also if the capitol building was just a shape of a different color could the trio of dancers go on top of it (or would that ruin the clean simplicity of the overall design we’re working with here? I don’t want to lose that, I really appreciate that element of all of your recent submissions.)
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This has possibilities. I really hate to break up that trio of dancers, though. Could the capital dome be suggested (maybe in the background) rather than so literally present and taking the place of one of the dancers?
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Thanks for feedback, update proposal #151 #152 and #153
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I don't want to throw this design on its head, but if we can also sneak a suggestion of the capitol building in there that would be super neat!
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Maybe a little less fading on the dancers, they are starting to look a little patchy (especially the guy on the right), or like paint was splattered on them.
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Thanks for feedback update proposals #141 #142 #143 and #144, let me know your thoughts.
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That said, it still feels a little cluttered. I wonder if a thicker white line around the letters would help set them apart from the background dancers a little more.
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Update proposal #133 #134 #135 and #136
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Font is clear and easy to read, I like that, but would like it a touch more vintage if possible.
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Font is easy to see but could be more vintage.
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Thanks for feedback, update proposal #120 and #121
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Two requests: Would there be a way to put yellow in there somehow without being distracting? It doesn't have to be a lot.
And could you try a different font (see note on another submission).
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Overall can we play with making the words more equal sized? Swing dance is just as important as the word Topeka (perhaps even more so), so if anything should be bigger than the other, it's probably the words "Swing dance."
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Love the figures! Could you try making them in our yellow color (see the files) rather than this tan color?
The white space between the orange outline and the letters gives it almost a blurry feel when I'm looking at it. Instead of two shadows (white and orange) can we cut it down to one or none?
Also orange isn't one of the colors we use very often, so we don't want much (if any) orange on our logo. Our three main colors are the teal, yellow and navy.
Not super loving the font. I like the thickness since it's in front of the figures, but the serifs look a little circus-like to me.
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Thanks for feedback, update proposal #110 #112 #113 and #114, let me know your thoughts.
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Check out our files for some pictures and sketches of dancing people that have more of that vintage feel.
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Thanks for feedback, I will update my proposal asap.
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Font could have a more vintage feel as well.
Words "swing dance" need to stand out more, they are equally if not more important than the word "Topeka."
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I submit new design proposals, let me know your thoughts.
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