Do you have another motorcycle ... like a cruiser as opposed to a chopper? Let's leave this one as an option, but since none of our guys has a chopper, maybe another type would be good to see.
Just to let you know ... I met with other members of our bike club yesterday and here's the direction I was given...
Since this is going on the back of a leather jacket or vest, we will basically have 3 components to our logo ... they are separated but still part of the same logo.
The top rocker will be an arch that says "Forgiven Sons". It will be pretty good sized font, like #34 uses. It will not be a fancy banner, just an arch.
Then the middle will be a cross (celtic style), with some wings, like the Harley logo wings, not angel wings. the cross is #56 is close, but maybe without the circle thing in the middle. No one has really hit on the right wings yet, but the Harley logo is what I'm thinking.
Then the bottom will be another arch, this time arching up (like a smile). It will say "PS421" and it will be in the same font as the top arch.
This is going to be 3 embroidered patches that are sown on a jacket to form the one logo look. If you Google a motorcycle club's jacket, you can see the style that most use.
Thanks for your work on this. Since I saw that you are still working on it, I wanted to give you some specific guidelines that I rec'd yesterday.