Thank you for all the logos. Seeing the trends I would like to give the following thoughts that are running the discussion. The logo has to be almost a three part logo with SSN the most important part, "Solutions" the least important and the tag line in second place. Our labels can be relatively small -say even 1 inch by 2 .75 inches. On those labels we expect to go with just SSN and any flourishes that are added. In places we can add it we will add the solutions. The tag line will be present on letter heads, marketing materials and invoices and contracts. we did see some logos that used strategically placed lower case letters, a little image for a letter in some places, etc. this is very attractive to us from a distinctive mark that can be part of a strong trademark application or even promote our logo.