Hey jimhack3, thanks for your design's, i'm sorry but these are not wot i'm lookin for, i like them but i think there to busy, i'm after a much simpler design with less colours.
I'm after more of a street art, cool, edgy vibe to my logo, i like designs with the same basic layout as yours, a square-ish shape in a border. I'm drawn more towards pinks, hope this helps.
Thanks for your input...Dave