nur we really like #104 but would like to see there lettering and outside trim "thicker" or more "bold" or "wider" I hope you understand what I am looking for. I think it looks great if we can get it to stand out more. These logos are going to be on all different things when you complete that can you also send make it with a white back ground.
#117 is looking great!! Add carbon fiber background in the whole area where you currently have black. Also where you have the letters outlined in the logo I would like to remove the outline and make the letters that much wider. The letters seem to be skinny and if you could make the wider it would make them look bigger.