#33 is nice, could you capitalize the font on the K and perhaps make the symbol upright and more of a flame whilst exchanging the centre of the ball for a more tribal look? Also could you add an additional design departing from the idea of fire but keeping the font?I want to depart from this idea of fire and see what most designers are capable of incase they come up with something better then my idea of fire as Kama does mean fire but there are many ways to represent this, Also could you perhaps when making the symbol in #33 upright, keep the centre area, so essentially you would have one with the centre as it is and the other with a tribal look and if possible a third with a design of your own, as I wish to see what is another way this could be interrupted by others, obviously the third is optional, its just a chance for me to see your very best of ideas for a way to represent Kama in a symbol form,