Kama StudiosLogo Design Contest

This is good but is there anyway to make that symbol more of a flame? and keep it within that same style?

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Sure will redo it. Thanks for e feedback.

Cheers,
Denji.

Is there anyway to remove the leafy look, or make it less obvious, its a nice re-do, also Studios, can the S's be slightly more straight and enlarge everything overall just slightly, Thanks,
Also can I see it against Black,

Hi,

Entry #108 is my redo work but still keep it within the same effects. The addition of orange-yellow color sparks up the realistic of fire. I try to create a fire logo but still with a touch of tribal feeling at the same time. I really hope you are connect with this. Thanks for reading.

Thanks & Cheers!
Denji.

Sure thanks for your feedbacks. Will work on it.

#108, Agreed, it is very nice, is there anyway to take away the leafy work in a way and the shadow of the flame at the bottom to reflect a more realistic view whilst also exchanging the font of Studios to something a little more
Also can there be small tribal workings through the flame, if you keep the leaf look or make it less obvious on each leaf can there be a design on each one, very subtle but tribal never the less, keeping the flame though as it is,

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Hi,

I cleared up the 'leaf lookalike' parts & also spiced up the colors below to make it look like strong flames.
Let me know your thoughts if there are any.

Thanks & Cheers,
Denji

I like how you've spiced up the look and clean up the 'leaf lookalike' parts' i was wondering if you could possibly clean it up a bit and make it more defined, the problem with this site is the image rez is quite small so I can't quite see the detail and because of that it looks a bit messy in the middle,
Hopefully you can make it more defined whilst keeping the look you've created,
Also due to the low rez, is that line that you have between the two words just a simple line or is there actually strikes in the middle,
Weirdly enough this image looks far better in both#108 and #120 against white then it does against black...
if that is the case in all circumstances, I would like to push this image further after its defined, adding further tribal elements and subtle points whilst keeping the basic design that you have made, these tribal elements though I don't want to take away from the image that is constructed in #120, perhaps this can wait till we have cleaned up the look,

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Oh gasp this is very challenging and no worries as I understand what you saying from here.
In my another submit, I will also show you a link to see the bigger version.
Thanks for the detail feedback.

Thanks & Cheers,
Denji

Thanks for your understanding, I just noticed that there was a brilliant element of a shadow that you had in #108, is there anyway you could bring that back to the new one?

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Oh okay, I thought that shadow need to remove. Ok my bad. Will bring it back in my next submissions. Thanks.

#131, it looks quite cleaned up, the shadow needs to be expanded slightly and little (very little) life brought to it,
Also in the ball of fire from bottom left side and right side to the middle it appears as if there is almost a line dividing the colours, can the whole thing around be smoothened out, flow into each other, although i want to keep this look that you've created almost and not just make a big ball of flames if you understand what i mean, either we keep the thing divided in a leafy way or we smoothen it out and create something from it to stop it from being just another big ball of fire but something artistic...

Agreed. Let me think about it whether I want to smoothen out Entry #108 as I really like this logo.
If not I will do as you say for Entry #131 to improve on, or maybe I will submit both for better comparisons.
Thanks for the great feedback and I will submit later on after I cleared up my own works for today.

Thanks & Cheers,
Denji.

Also forgot in #120 the bottom centre appears to have a certain design to it that is left out of #131, can this be added in also,

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Oh, that was me trying to create tribal shapes into the red box which I need to improve also. Will submit together. Thanks.

#166 That's looking good, although you've gone back to the previous look, I do like though what appears to be happening on the edges of the flames, gives extra life to it,
The font is great, though i was wondering if you could play with the K and M a bit more, not make them anything more special to the two A's but rather give them equal life as the two A's and size, although give the K just a slightly bigger size but nothing seriously noticeable, its just to make the K subconsciously appear bigger,
The line that divides the two words is looking more like a tribal design, is this intended, or is it the same red line? If it is intended, is there any chance to make it slightly larger or more obvious so its more visible, currently it looks like the Red line is rather just been cut up, although I can see a pattern forming it appears,

It's looking good, keep it up,
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Just a quick note, I've said this to some of the other designers, I want to make sure the design is fully capable of going between colours, mostly between black and white, although this system allows for us to only take one design, which it seems to be the white one looking the best here, I want to be able to take the symbol and its shadow etc. and move it between colours, T-Shirt designs etc. So I'm just hoping this doesn't affect the design in anyway as I like the way its slowly forming,

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Also, the flames, just want to make sure its understandable my previous statement about the ball, its more clear now in #169, it looks a bit like its in cased in an egg shell, or within a sack, the flames, a yellow one, is it possible to make it appear more of a 3D object, more life to it in a way, rather removing this idea of it being incased in a yellow egg shell or just layered one on top of the other,
#53 had a very 3D feel to it, a life like look, I'm just hoping this feel can be carried into the newer designs,

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You typed very very fast and I cannot believe it. Ok here let me explain part of the new looks. Entry #166 for the flames added some tribal shapes in it and yup added some small flames to create some life. And as for the line that divides the two words which is a tribal design and okay I will make it more obvious. Noted also on the K & M fonts. Do not worry on the colors background, as when you finalize the logo and we designers can send you 2 colors background which is not a problem. Thanks for the patience as I got a long day doing my works before I started on these. We still got 9 days and hopefully we able to work this logo out.

Thanks & Cheers,
Denji

I am so afraid that I might messed all these logos up.
I will do my best here & fingers crossed.
I will submit tmr morning and hopefully I able to work it out.
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Entry #189 is a new fire with added bit of 3d feel and also inject some life on the flames. A more clearer tribal symbol in between the words. Thanks.

Apologises for the fast typing,it's one of my talents if you can call it that,anyway don't worry about messing up the logo as long as you push that artistic look that you have on these other logos.
Ok as for #189,

I think return the font back to normal, push Kama up a bit and give your work some room to breathe,it looks a bit like the design you've done to seperate the two is a bit squished.

As for the design,it's a new direction in some ways,still like it,any chance on making more of it?bringing added life to it?the plus side with the ball in previous designs is that it felt like it had it's own space and representation,it had grounding, this design looks good but feels like it lacks in holding it's ground because of the use of space, if you can push this new design and add life and make it feel like it's holding it's ground with the space and that it's capable of being used on it's own then I'm fine with going on this new design,

previous design seemed like it could be used alone,in terms of it's symbol,
the problems the last once faced was I couldn't think of a way to bring this design to life for use on film,this new one I can,hopefully there's a way to find a sweet spot between the two,use for still and motion,and a way to repesent without the words,

the symbol and font need to be able to represent and hold their ground with whichever is chosen to be used,
Hope to see more soon,keep it up,as long as your willing to push a new design forward I'm fine with that but I'd also like to see the old design equally develop so we have options always,

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By the way, what does the old and new design look like against black?just for reference,

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Thanks for your detailed feedback. I understand more or less on what you trying to tell me here, I think I not going to throw in another new design. I want to improve on the three current ones instead. Will submit once I am done & okay sure on the against black as well. Fingers crossed.

Thanks & Cheers,
Denji

Just a quick note, the divide between Kama and Studios,
I think the colour should return back to that used in #166,

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#205 and #204,
Can the colour used in #204 for the shadow be used in #205,
Both fonts need to change,
The bit that looks like its on the outer shell, can this be made more of?
can the interior of the shell be curved more, as in the flames itself be curved more to suit the exterior, the shell...

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Hi CH,

Why not in this way, which of these 3 designs you prefer most and hope to see what changes in it.
Entry #189 Entry #204 Entry #166 ? So that I will concerntrate on just that design and work on it. As for the border and fonts which I understood to use back the old font. The shadow shall always remain the old one.
I hope this works better for all. Thanks & let me know.

Thanks & Cheers,
Denji

#189, #169, #204, #205
The last two are pretty much the same,
Although I don't know how you'll pull off incorporating #189 into the mix it will be interesting to see most definetly,
Anyway, The changes that need to be made are as follows
Shadows must all be the same (already discussed)
Font, refer back to previous postings (already discussed, as you've said)
The shape, texture, look and feel of the symbol,
The colour of the divide,

Obviously this is briefer then my previous post,
After the next revision I will give a more detailed post,
If the above is not enough to go on, feel free to tell me and I'll get back to you with full detail as soon as possible,


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Okies, hope I able to put all these together well.
Btw, are you a Singaporean too? Will be glad to see another Singaporean here. :)

Cheers & Thanks,
Denji

Entry #216 is my mixture of the three logos together. I hope this look good in your view.

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Denji

can we push #216 towards more on the #205/#206 side, don't mind the added element of the previous #189, just want just a little bit more of the #206 side,

Also can you post on its own the divide between the kama and studios, so I can see in detail what it is, also changing it to be a Red that is not as dark as deep red but not as bright as something like neon coloured red, between, a nice blend.

Can #216 have that exterior tribal element seen in #206 but with a more pushed tribal look, going towards what you've done with the divide but not to that extreme, rather in the middle, and be spread around the exterior instead of just the centre as seen in #206, but still having it towards the bottom of the exterior shell...

Definitely starting to pull back together well, hopefully we can speed up this process so I can finally decide between the top two before the times up and hammer down the perfect points :)

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Once you've finished the design above, can you always post with a black version also please,
I'd like to see it working on both colours at once so any changes made can be done to benefit both sides instead of ending up with an overly balanced one side, hopefully you understand what I mean, it's coming along great and I enjoy the fact that its working on both colours very well and still keep its effect in #205/#206,

This is definitely a strong point for this design, however, it does need quite a bit of work to make that strong point stick, so the above is possibly the basics before we start even going into appropriate detail like I have with the other designer,

Keep it up,
Thanks,

Thanks for your detailed feedback.
I wish to let you know that I prefer not to push my design to stay close like Biink as I still want to keep on with my own design's style. I hope you will understand on this. Although my flame might not look too much tribal style but the more you look at it and you will see a tribal style in it somehow, and which is also why I added a tribal style divider in between the words to keep on the tribal looks in overall. As I read on, its seem that tribal style is very important factor here, I will try to keep the flame flowing in that manner (tribal) somehow.

As for the " Can #216 have that exterior tribal element seen in #206 but with a more pushed tribal look, " as I am not so sure on this statement which I prefer you can kindly brief me again. Noted on the black backgrd.

Thanks & Cheers,
Denji

Right, that is understandable, in which case, can the design on its own be pushed more? Making the exterior slightly more obvious and giving the flames a slightly more 3D look, although a 2D image, make it seem like theres a bit of depth in there, not too much of course as the image still must be clear,

The statement i made about #216 and #206,
In #206 if you look at your exterior shell you did there is a minor white flame thats clear, starting from the bottom and getting to half way at its peak, this is what I'm talking about, adding this into the #216 design but pushing for that tribal look,
Making it almost like the banner divide but also the #206 design, as I understand we want to keep your designs betwene you and Biink seperate, so in this case, that is why I would like a sweet medium between the two designs, the #206 design of that external flame done in white and partly clear and the banner design,

This may make the exterior shell more obvious and give that depth look potentially without altering the actual flames too much, obviously though I don't want the shell to consume the whole image, The flames still look great, a bit like leaves going up in fire,

I'm wondering if you can further push those flames, add a little more colour here and there, I do see the tribal factor that you are talking about, its definitely a subtle factor,

The banner looks great and was wondering if you could develop it more before you post it, if you can't thats fine and just post it as it is with the new colours, but it looks like it could be divided into two at the D on Studios making for a nice divide,

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Sorry for my bit of poor english, will do my best in modify somehow from your comments. Hopefully to get it right. Thanks.

That's fine, understandable, as always since your willing to put in the effort, I'm willing to help make my comments clearer when requested to :)

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why the change?
#240 #241

I guess you have found the winner, then I shall rest my case here.
Thanks for working with me.