OK - hope I got everything as you want it - also most designers (i know I do) are usually very happy to tweak stuff after the LT process and breaking up the parts of a logo is very easy to do. In other words after the contest is over the winning designer usually will help out with other formats and such, I'm always happy to send other formats, over and above the EPS and large JPEG that LT requires. just FYI. Mike M
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