I feel we are getting a little bit off track, I think we are having to much emphasis on cad, most of the new logos look like they are for a computer company again. When we say it should be architecural, we do not really mean to do with the work of an architect, more to do with aesthetics of an architect, which are very simple and tight, we will give some more examples, such as - wallpaper.com, www.detail.de, www.theplan.it, www.id-mag.com