I'm not sure you understood what I was saying. The hash lines around the logo form a square. But for a "grunge" look, it should be more random with the lines shooting off and ending at random spots. And they shouldn't flow around the logo so perfectly. "Grunge" is all about a dirty random mess. That's what we're looking for, something really rough. As I explained to one of the other designers... think of our logo stamped into mud... that's the kind of look we're going for.