Thanks for the new designs. How about this: 1) We want "nou" to stand out more than "Systems" - can you try lower-case "s" in "systems"? We like the de-emphasized "inc" - it should remain subtle and gray. Maybe lighten up the color in "systems" as well. We want "nou" to stand out. 2) Your images look good (subtle 3D effects). Can you experiment with some "nou" graphics instead of NSI? There is some interesting symmetry there between the n and u that could be exploited. 3) #26 font is good, but is a little thin, can that be thickened? Thanks again