Hey Eric...Thanks for the note and for the designs. Really appreciate you having a stab. For this one I'm looking for something that a cross between your Jatrocar winning entry (for me!) and your awesome Grandma's Labs icon/logo. The logo really needs to appeal to kids 13-17 so its got be kinda cool and edgey - enough to make them wanna join the Facebook page as this will be the primary place for the new logo. If you need more direction or references to other designs let me know. I want to steer away from a typical "Government/Education" logo and create something thats got a bit more edge to it...something different...you know what I like :-)