Dezyner, thanks for your time but I didnt like how that red look. Can you take the entry 20 and add the slogan to it, and bold out the "consulting more or darker. ALso if you have the time see what the KJS logo looks like with a shade of green and also shade of black to see if that looks better than the white only. Right now I am leaning towards 20 when you add the slogan but I want to see if the green or black outlined letters on KJS look any better than the white. THanks for your time