Can you change the colors a bit on them both? Not crazy for the light blue I think, and maybe bright green(not fluorescent though haha) in there somewhere.
What would be cool is if you could incorporate a flipper for the top of the exclamation point and the "dot" be a metallic pinball ball like in the top of this website http://marcospecialties.com/
hey anyway to change the word "arcade" to a pixelly/digital old school style font like some others have done? might look cool. also, on the metallic ball, number #69 has shiny, can you come up with that type?
see if the shine on either of the two i put up works better for you. Re the type, I can't really copy anyone else's work, and some of those pixelated fonts look like altered fonts (not straight typing of the font, but actually adjusting form) so don't want to infringe on someone elses. (since this isn't a group project, it's a contest for money, that is something we need to be careful about. )Not sure something that thin would hold it's weight again the very heavy type above it either. But I can try some other fonts to see if you would like anything better that i can find that would maybe fit the era.....
yeah that's ok...i still like the orginal "arcade" font also! something looks funny about the flipper. it's way too small i think and behind the metallic ball instead of on top. ball looks much better though now....good job!!
if 88 or 87 (size of arcade type slightly different) seem to be more what you want, happy to play around with it more (background shape or whatever). C
I don't know if you care, but I tried one more with the ball sitting above the x and to the left of the top of the exclamation point which is the flipper, but the part of the exclamation point that doesn't relate to the flipper remains the same as it is in the piece currently in third place. If you want it uploaded to see if it is something you want to see I would temporarily have to be put into first until it was uploaded and then you could reposition it back. If you decide to do that, please message me, so that i don't miss the opportunity.
I realize you might be set enough that you don't wish to consider anything new. C
i see that you have moved me into second again. Would really like to present you with this other option described above which in color tone dimension, ball and flipper position color, shape and dimension, are much more cohesive and strong in their new position and color/form. But, again, would at least temporarily have to be put in first position long enough to upload. (again, if you do decide you would like to see, please notify me by message so i don't miss the opportunity) and also noting that with the defined black area background as part of the logo, it allows for versatility in it's use on other background colors including yellow, blue, green, etc. which is an example i could also upload at that same time for you to see and evaluate .
pps: the new version leaves the flipper as part of the exclamation mark, both in position, and color, so it retains it's "value" as part of the mark" yet still is also more recognizable as a flipper, because the ball is no longer part of the mark itself (moved to a different position to the left and over the x, looking more like it has been acted on by the flipper), the whole thing has a better clarity/flow like stated above. (Okay, i guess i will just stop trying to explain it from here and wait and let you tell me if you want to see it. :-) C
Are you available for uploading ur new ones? Sorry I've been out of pocket with kids for couple days. Pls let me know as I can move you into first to list new logos
Just a note: I threw in the solid black back basically to give you an idea what one of the new versions (98 or 99)would look like on a solid black back, as well as the other solid color backgrounds in an effort show the versatility of the basic logo. If you choose the solid black back without retaining the partial black area/shape like in the basic version (98-99) you will loose the versatility of putting it on any other kind of background. That is fine if you will always be using it on a black background.
But, if you want to be able to put it on other colors, including white without having to play with a lot of color (and other) adjustments, you will want to choose 98 or 99.
(if you will always be using it on something with an all black background that is moot. (Also, i guess since it is only in position 2, it is probably moot anyway :-)
Anyway, just wanted to give you a heads up on the issue if you were to choose that version. (another quick note: the only difference between 98 or 99 is the little "motion mark" leading from the flipper to the ball).
If i have totally confused you with the above, feel free to ask questions, of course.
btw--These days digital 4 color process printing is almost as cheap as 2 or 3 color standard PMS printing, (and can often be even cheaper online, though many places these days have local outlets that provide it now). So, you might check out your options that way as well. There are a lot more options these days which have become much more affordable.
Yep that's what he said also, try to keep to 4 colors! I believe if colors blend together(fade) into another that is several colors, correct? Sorry my first time doing this! How many colors are you using on these, I guess not counting the backgrounds?
if you use 4-color digital process printing (then you don't have to worry about 4 specific colors, because it basically makes all of the colors from 4 colors of ink (C(Cyan), M (Magenta), Y (yellow) and K (black). When you get a Logo Tournament file, you get a CMYK file. These days, a lot of printing is done with digital process and they use a CMYK file.
Before digital process you would have to create a film for each match color you had and would choose a flat PMS color and create films for each of those. And they had to put each color on the press, have the ink color, clean the press between colors, align the sheets, etc. Which made each color you added expensive. If you went 4 color process back then you also did the cmyk thing where you pretty much made every color from the 4 colors, but you had to do film, screens, press wash, etc. Some places still work that way. And, if you only have one or two colors, want an exact color match from a book of chosen pms colors, etc. it can still be a cheaper way to go.
However, a lot of places now do it digitally (sort of how you would do it with an inkjet printer or color laser) only the technology is a lot better and the kind of inks, etc, they use are a lot higher quality, specialized, etc., so the computer does a lot of the work a pressman used to, though the pressman still is in the process, and that brought process color prices down. Like i said earlier, some local printers have switched to digital and some haven't, you should be able to find out who in your area does it and compare the prices with traditional press. You can get it also through places like Kinko's (even local Kinko's will sometimes send out their product to their main digital printing place thoug) or specialty on-line printers such as VistaPrint.com, PrintingForLess.com (because they are online and therefore have a huge customer base, they can sometimes give you excellent prices and a good product, but be sure to figure in shipping prices as well). And, there are pros and cons to both dealing locally (control, relationships, etc) and online.
Anything with a lot of special effects or dimension, etc. is bound to actually be a 4 color process.
But, one way or another, It is good to create a logo that will play in black and white or grayscale and have clean enough lines that it will work in various uses or will play if you for the end product have to choose flat colors for things like stitching etc., if it is possible you will have to use it that way. So your logo should play even if you were to not able to include all the special effects. One of the files you will get from logo tournament is an eps-vector file that other people you work with (printers, web people, other designers), will be able to go into and make changes or create the file types they need from it).
Also, I'm afraid the "arcade" might not show as predominant without an black outline maybe?.....cause it shows well on diff backgrounds except the arcade might get lost a bit.
okay, 108 is new version. hopefully i interpreted right what you wanted done with the arcade. Re the shiny, i adjusted some and added a few highlights and lowlights which should help. I can try some other things. (it's harder to do chrome in a ball than in a flat surface and in illustrator (a vector program which we have to use for this contest) than in something like Photoshop, but if you want i could work on it more.)