Hi Tim! Thanks for entering your designs - they look great. In regards to the overall concept: we've been leaning a little more in the raw direction (a tad bit grunge?), so I'd love to see the basic design of #137 with some fonts options that express a rawer feel. In regards to the solid circle behind the cross…would I be able to see that with lines emanating from the center, something like you'll see in the logo at sojournchurch.com? I'm not sure what to call that design element, but I've been leaning more in that direction. Not sure if my directions are helpful at all - consider them more suggestions at this point.