Nice design and looking forward to more of your creative ideas! A specific comment on this set of ideas is to remember that our needs are only as a logo design ... so a full illustration would not work. As one of my old instructors used to say, "for a logo, imagine it on a rubber stamp." :-) Also please continue to review my on-going high-level general comments and tips, made to the entire group in the LogoTournament Brief. These are very important. Great job so far! Thanks and best regards, Mark