City of Angels BalletLogo Design Contest

Logo Design Contest
Contests / City of Angels Ballet

City of Angels Ballet has selected their winning logo design.

For $400 they received 295 designs from 16 different designers from around the world.

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Discussion

 
CAB
Client
I really like this one. It is one of the best dancer representations. The over all color scheme is good but I would love to see richer tones. It would be interesting to see it with a different font for "Angels". The angels font is not quite hitting the mark. But over all really great.

It would also be interesting to see the same theme with an image of a harp instead of the dancer.

It might also be interesting in different color variations

Thank you
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
Thank you so much for the feedback! I will work on some various color variations, font changes, and addition of the harp for you and will post them shortly.

Sincerely,
Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
Thank you for your revisions. I really love the new image with the lyre. Just a note a lyre and harp are different. But I like the image very much.

I am still not 100 percent on the type of "angels" sorry I cannot better describe what it is that is missing the mark. An additional issue that inhibits me from being able to choose this design is that our full name is not included. Our full name is city of angels ballet. The winning design must either include our initials which are CAB or city of angels ballet. We would prefer to have our full name used as that design can be duplicated to use just our initials.

Thank you again for your work
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
My goodness I apologize about not adding 'ballet' to the logo. I will add that in for sure! :). I will also create some more font options for the 'Angels' word.

Thank you so much for all of the wonderful feedback!

Sincerely,
Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
Also change to Angels. You have angles. Just a typo. Thanks
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
Oh my! haha, my apologies, it's been quite a long day!

Thanks,
Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
I think #18 is probably the closest so far. I would love to see some additional variations on this design. I think the image is great and could be beautiful even alone. We are looking for a logo that can have multiple variations for different applications. Just a suggestion maybe keep the lyre design and play with some color, text, placement variations.

thank you again for your work.
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
Thank you again for your great feedback! I will certainly arrange the logo in a few variations and play with the colors and text arrangement.

Thanks!
Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
Mike could you take #42 and use the logo with a different layout. Could you make the font consistent in color and size.
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
can you stack the name on #48 and #49 so that it's not one straight line.
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
I certainly can! I have uploaded them for you. #57 and #58
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
Thank you so much for all your many revisions. It helps so much to see every subtle detail manipulated to get a better sense of what we are trying to accomplish. I still think that #51 and #57 are my favorites of the series. I don't want to just keep throwing things at you but I would love to see just one of these inverted so we can see what it would look like with a dark back ground.

Thank you so much.
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
Really it's no problem whatsoever! It's my pleasure to provide you with what you're needing to see. I have uploaded the new examples for you to review. Let me know if that's what you're looking for.

Thanks!
Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
I just wanted to let you know also, that should I be the winning designer and my logo is chosen, I can send you all of the versions of the logo that I have so you can own them as well.

Thanks!
Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
Dear Mike,

We love design #57 and #51, this design theme is definatly in our top 3 favorite and you are one of our top 3 designers. These designs look wonderful in all the colors and combinations you have shown. We have appreciated ALL of you designs as well as your communication. Working with you has been a pleasure.

There are a few things about the design we would like to see adjusted if possible.

We love the lyre design and feel it looks wonderful on its own. We feel that the font still needs some additional manipulating.

We like that the current font design is clean and easy to read and the positioning compliments the lyre nicely. The concern is, we will have the need to use the name alone without the lyre at times and the name alone lacks movement. It is such a hard balance. We want to keep the clean uncluttered esthetic while creating movement and intrest in the text alone. We don't want to get to scripty, the past designs where the angel was in script was to much. Plus we feel highlighting the word angel makes us seem like a religious organization which we are not.

We would love to see this design evolve further, because it really is one of our top picks.

Thank you again and again
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
That is great thank you! I have some ideas for the font and how to make it stand alone apart from the lyre. I will work on those and upload them in just a couple of hours.

Thanks!
Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
I have seen your new additions. I am not sure about the gray or the squiggly in the A. I just don't feel it relates to the rest of the piece and it feels a little inexpensive. Your image gives a very clean but high art feel and I am trying to find that same feeling and movement in the font as well. I am trying to search my thoughts to give a clearer picture of what to change but I am having trouble visualizing it. Sorry I feel these new ones might have missed the mark. Sorry to be so picky but I really do love your design and I want to see it get to 100% for us.

I know I said I didn't want the font to get too scripty and you have seen our feed back to some of your other more scripty font designs but maybe I am boxing you in to much and not allowing an option that might be great by saying no script. What do you think? But you are on the right track we need to find a combination of font that will look great with the image and relate to it but also look great without the image.

I hope it is ok to keep the communication going and keep adjusting until it is just right.

Thank you again.

Thank you.
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
It is most certainly perfect to continue communicate and keep adjusting until it's perfect! That's my goal with every client to make it perfect. I can even continue to work with you after this tournament is completed to tweak as necessary until it's exactly the way you want it. Of course my goal is to get it perfect before the end of the 'Top 5' phase of this tournament, but wanted to extend my continued support to your logo past this tournament.

I will try a few different things, I have some 'tricks up my sleeve' that I can try out and will add those as soon as possible.

Sincerely,
Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
Thanks for the revisions to be honest I do not care for 118 119 120 they are further away from our goal. #57 and #51 are still by far my front runners. I think the best bet would be to go back to making subtle variations to that theme maybe. I am searching for a way to describe what I am thinking. I would like to see the curves of the lyre design very subtly reflected in the name as well. When I look at #57 it looks and feels 'designed' when I remove the name from the lyre it just becomes chosen font and no longer feels designed.

I am not sure that I expressed this before but as you can tell we really need a logo that will work in many different applications. Various colors, vertical, horizontal, small, large, image alone and name alone. We need our winner to be versatile. You have done such a great job of showing us almost all the above needs, I feel again it is just the font that could bring it all the way.

Thank you again (I can't say that enough)
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
I would agree with you on #57, that is my favorite of my entries. When I look at it all together, I love the flow of the 'C' and the 'A' against the lyre. And I see your point when you take the lyre graphic away, it just becomes a font.

I will try a few more things and upload soon!

Thank you as well for all of your very insightful and incredibly helpful feedback, I very much appreciate it!

Mike
www.mikesofka.com
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
I agree with you 57 is really great. I love the symmetry of the design all together. The font completes the lines of the lyre design. You are right it is just once separate them that the name looses its design and interest. We are of course open to seeing any designs you think would work. We maybe just need another name only version that ties in the lines of the lyre to the font. Just all ideas I am throwing at you. I am just picking now, I think #57 is great.

Also just a heads up I am going to start asking our top 3 to do the images in other colors. You have already done that so most of my requests are not necessary. Maybe if you can just show #57 in some form of purple. Think rich but still vibrant. You have already shown us gold, blue, black and white.
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
Yes indeed, I can certainly do that.

What about this thought? I have been designing logos for quite a few years for some major corporations, namely, Home Depot Supply, Walt Disney, and currently VeggieTales...in my experience, there are generally more than one logo layout. This is what I'm thinking. When the lyre image is present, the text will stay stacked as in #57 to give the beautiful flow of the 'C' and the 'A' around the lyre curve. However, when it's just a text based logo, we change the layout of the wording for the 'text based logo'. Not sure if you have a website and marketing materials already, but a great thing to have would be a style guide for your company. For instance, here at VeggieTales, we have a style guide that lists out which PMS colors we must use on the logos, how the logo should be used against other elements, such as "there must always be at least 30 pixels between the logo and any other object...", then in the style guide you can also define things such as "when the lyre image is not present, 'this' is the text based logo to use", etc.

Just wanted to let you know also it is an absolute pleasure working with you. You have been very forthcoming and open with your feedback and as an artist, I truly appreciate that...with some clients, it's like pulling teeth trying to get any feedback at all. :) So thank you!

Mike
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
YES. Now we are headed in the right direction. I like the new designs very much. I love the purple you have chosen too it is great.

I like #126, I think it is a great idea to use the "of" as your artistic flare because it is not a key word. It is the perfect word to use for design and almost an art piece. I am not sure how I feel about it side ways, I might have think about it a bit and get back to you. But we are on track.

I love #129 font alone that is headed in the right direction. I wonder how it would look using a different font for Ballet maybe something thin and straight that mimics the interior of your lyre design?

Very happy with this direction. Thank you again.
12 years ago
 
CAB
Client
I completely agree with you about a style guide. We are in need of that for sure. This logo is our first step toward a complete redo of our branding. We have never had this before. A website and marketing materials are next on the list.
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
Apparently I have a 'logo court' case started against me for using royalty free clip art that I got clearance to use and make my own for the logo. Funny how people always fun for the folks in first place any way they can. Any suggestions on what I should do?
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
And I ask because there are only so many ways a lyre looks. That's like if I 'copied' a drum set anyone could say I copied any single drum set... :\
12 years ago
 
Logo Designer
Wow. I was removed from your logo competition and I am thoroughly disappointed! I have had such a joy working with you and on your logo. Please contact me when you're ready to start your website and marketing materials as I would love to work with you!

Is there anyway that I'm able to get back in the competition? If you loved the logo that I have been working on for you I can still send it to you once the competition is over for you to have free of charge if you'd like? I'd even be willing to make some more minor adjustments to the font.

Sincerely,
Mike Sofka
12 years ago
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