On #50, could you keep the top black part of the square the same and try some different colors with the red background. We really really like #50, but we have to be able to use it on a red sign... and obviously the red of the logo will clash with the red sign. We will have the font and letters white for sure. Could you also try Group bigger underneath and the square on the side of Abundantco? Great job, I think we are going to go with yours, just need to get it fully worked out. Red signs and white font is big in our market place. Maybe try some Grey in there. Thanks BW
PS. #65 is very, very simple however we may just use that for our red signs.