OK so might have to use all caps on EST to be consistent. Also, we like the original bible you used on design #6 can you use that look of bible on this logo. Also, try to fill in the circle with a solid color and reverse out the letters in one option....just to see how that looks. Thanks for making these changes and variations. Finally, can you explore an option in place of the hands that would look like people - small people like figures - 4 on one side and 4 on the other as there are 8 people in our family - we have 6 kids. I know this is a lot so just tackle what you can and create a few versions for us to finalize with. Thanks,