#57#58 this is an interesting idea. Perhaps without the color box and sun and my colors for other items are dark blue, gold, and black. I want to emphasize more the first "S" and first "G" and in the tree I see the "S" and the thing around the trunk looks a little like a "G" but perhaps the tree can have more than 1 trunk with branches forming a "SG". I do like the idea of Zen trees with the ornimental look - perhaps something with that idea? Thanks.